I have never seen the screen caps of this movie. Chelliyah where can I see them? I have always seen them for his other ones.

In answer to your question about the politics in the movie. I had to watch it twice to understand it, but thought that it was a nice balance.

The political storyline of the movie was a great mix to the anguished life of the gubernatorial candidate. While the film dealt more with his personal life, you do get an understanding to how some people in the political world operate and deal with those dark issues that may come to light. The biggest part of the political story is that the candidate, William Blake Pellerin, is a lie. I don’t want to ruin the movie, but it’s a lie.

If you refer to my original post, I mentioned that there is a flamboyant and hedonistic senator, whose own political career was affected by his lifestyle. He molded William Pellerin to be a politician, when his own aspirations were thwarted. You get to see just how people think, suppose and feed the voters.

While it isn’t the strong political movie as you’re hoping it may be, PrettyEyes, it is beautifully acted by William Hurt and the supporting cast. It was hard to follow at first, but once you understand what’s going on and get the answer to the lie that I mentioned above, you appreciate the attempt made with the film.

Maybe it’s how a previous post was worded, but I have to say that I didn’t purchase the film to see Carmine naked, nor should you. I had no clue that it was even to be expected. Am I fond of his nudity? Sure… Why wouldn’t I be? I’m a heterosexual woman practicing the age old sin of lust… 10 seconds of Carmine being nude makes no difference to me, but his 10 seconds of being nude is an IMPORTANT part of the story and it plays into the politics in the movie. I’m not urging anyone to purchase this film based upon his nudity. If you do, you’re truly missing out on an interesting story.

I also mentioned Carmine's acting in the film too. I mentioned how he's a much more polished actor today than he was then. He only spoke in the scenes where he's in uniform, but in the scenes where he's nude, you see him portraying someone who is obviously under the influence of something. I'm a fan of his acting and I don't want that to be lost.

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Maybe it’s how a previous post was worded, but I have to say that I didn’t purchase the film to see Carmine naked, nor should you. I had no clue that it was even to be expected. Am I fond of his nudity? Sure… Why wouldn’t I be? I’m a heterosexual woman practicing the age old sin of lust… 10 seconds of Carmine being nude makes no difference to me, but his 10 seconds of being nude is an IMPORTANT part of the story and it plays into the politics in the movie. I’m not urging anyone to purchase this film based upon his nudity. If you do, you’re truly missing out on an interesting story. I also mentioned Carmine's acting in the film too. I mentioned how he's a much more polished actor today than he was then. He only spoke in the scenes where he's in uniform, but in the scenes where he's nude, you see him portraying someone who is obviously under the influence of something. I'm a fan of his acting and I don't want that to be lost.

I have to say Leta, the reason Carmine is butt naked in this film is DEFINATELY NOT the reason i Purchased this film, and i think its the same for alot of carmine's fans! To be honest, i didnt even know he was naked in the film before i got it - I just got it because He was in it! It wouldnt matter to me if He had every item of clothing in his wardrobe on his body in a boiling hot desert... I would still watch it, and be interested in the character he is portraying.
Yeah so what if people are talking about Carmine being naked in the film? Its wat he did, and there is nothing wrong with people talking about it / enjoying seeing him naked! lol I personally like the film - Carmine is the bonus! I hope you dont take this post the wrong way, cause that is not what i intended it to do at all. I jus think that Carmine Being naked ina movie is not that much of a big deal, (Ok it is! - but its nothin to get ya knickers in a twist over!!) and i think that once you see it the first time, u will probably watch it again, and get into the film itself. i have no problem with anyone buying the dvd jus cause he is naked in it.. its everyones own choice but to be honest i think if anyone does they will appreciate the film in the end.

Carmine is one of the best actors i know to date,(Im pretty sure i have said that before!) and i would buy any film he is in...no matter how goofy or excellent the film is!

I feel that its not right for people to put down the Clothes that carmine wears... Yeah, so some things might not look right on him... but who cares? !!!!! it seems its ok for people to moan about people liking him NAKED, but when he actually has clothes on.. its a big deal about what he actually HAS on. That to me is stupid, he wears wat he feels comfortable in and if your too busy complaining about what he IS wearing, rather than NOT, then you dont realise that that is who carmine is.
I know this all probably seems childish right now, but i feel i have to make my point.

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I totally agree with you Chelle. I was going to make a comment before, but didnt!

Im blonde, but far from stupid!! There is no way i would buy a dvd, just because Carmine is naked, if i wanted some cheap frill i can go to a local shop and get one cheaper than getting a dvd from the states!! (probably, i never brought one before! )

Ive never seen the film, but as i like Carmine for his talent, i thought i would purchase it, like many others i have purchased, i just havent had the time to watch them yet! The reason why i have, is because i have only seen him in CSI:NY, unfortunately for us Brits, we dont hear or see much about him, so i thought it would be nice to see him in a different role!

Its a shame that just cos some of us like to have a laugh, its come across that some of us are shallow and we're not at all.

If some, which Chelle has stated, want to get the film just because he is naked, so what? Each to their own and they shouldnt feel bad about it. We all like and respect him for his talents either, Acting, Music or his Art work and no one should feel bad for anything they like about him.

I have seen a few remarks about what he wears and as far as im concerned, thats far worse than what some of us have been saying about the film. At least we are kind of making a compliment about him.

We are all entitled to make a comment good or bad, thats what this forum is about.

I dont want to start a war here, we are all here for the same reason and we all get along great , but comments like that can really make you feel quite bad! and it wasnt my or anybody elses intention to annoy or upset anybody at all.

I'm not going to ruin this thread with what I could possibly say, but first of all... I must reiterate, I didn't watch the movie because Carmine was naked in it. I didn't stop watching the movie after he was naked in the first minute of the movie, either. After getting to the meat of the film, I came to my conclusion of it. I expressed that in the original post, since I started the thread and another after that.

My last post was a reply to PrettyEyes who asked about the worth of the movie and commented that she wasn't going to buy the movie just for Carmine's nudity. She asked about the politics in the movie. I answered her question. If you bought the movie AFTER it was mentioned or BECAUSE Carmine was naked, then my answer didn't apply to you. I was replying to PrettyEyes. Funny how things can be misunderstood.

As for Carmine's attire, which would maybe be better suited in the thread in which the comments were made, I sometimes don't care for his choice of clothes. There are other times when I think his clothes are perfect. But, I don't care to see anyone that I admire walking around in wrinkled clothes. While my comments may have seemed like personal attacks, they are no different than the comments I'd give to any close friend of mine. I'd offer to iron his shirt. I'd offer to take him shoppping, at his expense, of course. The funny thing is, again, my comments were a reponse to someone else.

Look... No matter how anyone says that their comments shouldn't be taken personally or offensively, they will be. And I'm woman enough to say that should Carmine ever, at any point in his busy life, meander to this forum and take me to task, "I apologize for laughing at your wrinkled shirt and sandals. If that seemed shallow, I regret it." If anyone else was offended by those comments and felt it 'cruel', I apologize to you too. But really, that shirt was wrinkled and I wasn't lying.

Can we all get over this now and take this thread back to talking about The Big Brass Ring?

Leta, this is great that u wanna end this stupid 'disagreement', and i know this probably gonna sound really.. OT but, even tho you say something to someone else in the thread in a reply to what they have said, it is a public forum! and we all have our opinions etc. and are free tro respond if need be.
I for one never wanted this to be turned in to some stupid playground argument, because at the end of the day, we are here because of Carmine. And obviously if someone finds something that was said 'offensive' in some way then that is there choice to respond. We all like to have fun and have a good giggle here, as all girls do - But hey! its forgotten, but remember, everyone can have there say no matter what! Im over it. Im not here to have arguments.

The only thing i agree with (cant remember who said it now.. ?) is that the film is a little slow to get into at first, but keep with it! lol Carmines parts that he plays are really good esp when he cries.... damn that man can cry!

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The only thing i agree with (cant remember who said it now.. ?) is that the film is a little slow to get into at first, but keep with it! lol Carmines parts that he plays are really good esp when he cries.... damn that man can cry!

Oh how I love Carmine's ugly cry? He cries like nobody's business. That's what I love about his acting. He can draw you in and when you strip away his looks and body, you get to the character he's portraying. i don't want to give too much away about the movie, for those who haven't seen it, but when his brother turns his back on him, you can't help but to feel that hurt. That's why I love his guy. He's a tremendous actor.

This film is so overlooked because maybe it's a bit hard to follow and the big reveal isn't so big, but when you get to the actors in the movie, as a whole, you can't deny their excellent portrayals. I really liked this film and Carmine's scenes, however brief they were.

As for that other stuff, I don't dwell on it because it's like beating a dead horse. At the same time, if one says that it's okay for them to have liberty to say/reply with whatever they want to say, then that must also apply that same liberty to everyone else. And that's pretty much all I have to say about that. We're all Carmine's fans, clothes and all...

I agree, this should stop now, but im sorry, but this needed to be said and yeah i do kinda agree with you Leta, sometimes when you text or email something, things do came across the wrong way, but the only reason why i mentioned the clothes thing in THIS thread was to make a point.

Anyway, thats the end of this subject me thinks and we are all friends ''Big hugs'' from me!!

I hate it when he cries, cos i cry too! lol He so good when he plays apart thats so intense. He seems to be able to play any part, with real emotions. Its so believeable, its untrue!!

So i take it when i watch the film i will need a another box of tissues??? lol

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I hate it when he cries, cos i cry too! lol He so good when he plays apart thats so intense. He seems to be able to play any part, with real emotions. Its so believeable, its untrue!! So i take it when i watch the film i will need a another box of tissues??? lol

You mean, like this? First pic, start of the ugly cry. You can see where his bottom lip is going to tremble. Last pic, his eyes are so purdy..

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I hate it when he cries, cos i cry too! lol He so good when he plays apart thats so intense. He seems to be able to play any part, with real emotions. Its so believeable, its untrue!! So i take it when i watch the film i will need a another box of tissues??? lol

hehe awww i totally agree with u huni! lol
I tell u wat, if u still havent watched it by the time we go to New York in October, we can watch it the night before we go! i will bring lots of tissues! hehe

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Does anyone have any more from this movie and I'll never seen him cry since in CSI NY episode Run slient and Run Deep!! Can you post any loves scences with woman please Just asking!!

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The political storyline of the movie was a great mix to the anguished life of the gubernatorial candidate. While the film dealt more with his personal life, you do get an understanding to how some people in the political world operate and deal with those dark issues that may come to light. The biggest part of the political story is that the candidate, William Blake Pellerin, is a lie. I don’t want to ruin the movie, but it’s a lie. If you refer to my original post, I mentioned that there is a flamboyant and hedonistic senator, whose own political career was affected by his lifestyle. He molded William Pellerin to be a politician, when his own aspirations were thwarted. You get to see just how people think, suppose and feed the voters. While it isn’t the strong political movie as you’re hoping it may be, PrettyEyes, it is beautifully acted by William Hurt and the supporting cast. It was hard to follow at first, but once you understand what’s going on and get the answer to the lie that I mentioned above, you appreciate the attempt made with the film. Maybe it’s how a previous post was worded, but I have to say that I didn’t purchase the film to see Carmine naked, nor should you. I had no clue that it was even to be expected. Am I fond of his nudity? Sure… Why wouldn’t I be? I’m a heterosexual woman practicing the age old sin of lust… 10 seconds of Carmine being nude makes no difference to me, but his 10 seconds of being nude is an IMPORTANT part of the story and it plays into the politics in the movie. I’m not urging anyone to purchase this film based upon his nudity. If you do, you’re truly missing out on an interesting story. I also mentioned Carmine's acting in the film too. I mentioned how he's a much more polished actor today than he was then. He only spoke in the scenes where he's in uniform, but in the scenes where he's nude, you see him portraying someone who is obviously under the influence of something. I'm a fan of his acting and I don't want that to be lost.

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My last post was a reply to PrettyEyes who asked about the worth of the movie and commented that she wasn't going to buy the movie just for Carmine's nudity. She asked about the politics in the movie. I answered her question. If you bought the movie AFTER it was mentioned or BECAUSE Carmine was naked, then my answer didn't apply to you. I was replying to PrettyEyes. Funny how things can be misunderstood.

First of all, I don't want any of ya'll beating up on my Leta! She thoughtfully provided a comprehensive review of the movie, for which I'm grateful. All I knew about BBR before her post was "That's the movie Carmine's naked in!" "It's about a politician." Big freakin' deal. Give me "The Contender," "All the President's Men," or "The Manchurian Candidate" (the original, not the remake) any day.

Now I'm not so sanctimonious as to say I don't enjoy looking at the man. I'm a single hetero woman, and all I can say is: Biceps ... kapow! Eyes ... boom! Wait, this isn't a Batman episode.

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Leta, exactly like that!! lol

Chelle, i still havent seen it and probably wont b4 we go to New York, so i expect you to bring it round the night before we go!! lol[/b]